Friday, 12 September 2008

Will Boris Johnson defy the Tories on C-Charge?

The Conservative members of the London Assembly have all signed a letter urging Boris Johnson to scrap the Western congestion charge.

Yet the letter comes in advance of the result of a public consultation and after Boris made it clear that he no longer favours a complete rollback of the scheme.

So if as expected the consultation produces a mixed response from West London residents, will Boris openly defy each and every one of his Conservative representatives?

The congestion charge has been consistently opposed by the Conservative Assembly members, and Boris had previously stated that he was opposed to the Western extension.

But with the realities of his statutory environmental responsibilities and with the threat of huge EU fines for air pollution on the horizon, the fact is that Boris may be forced to openly defy his own side.

Of course Boris can afford to offend the Tory Assembly members. And an adapted charge would help appease at least some of those who are now opposed.

But with his election partly dependant on a promise to scrap the extension, would there be more than just a few politicians who would feel betrayed by a retreat?

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

Will he by any chance say one thing and then ... do another? Just a guess.

The Troll said...

Well yes there is always the chance he could say : 'oh well I was in favour of an adapted charge but the consultation was overwhelmingly... blah blah blah.'

I still think that the classic Boris compromise (given a choice between A and B he will choose both) will prevail, but it's anyones guess what the consequence of that will be.

Harold said...

If it's kept, he won't know about it, if it's scrapped someone else will do it and not tell him.
Are you sure he knows what the charge is in western extension? Does he know where it is?

angelneptunestar said...

Boris will do what is best for London. We face really hard times ahead and whatever party we belong to, we are all British. It is the sort of situation that if we stick together and pull together, we survive. If we go it alone and undermine, we don't.

The Troll said...

Angela you're beginning to sound like Gordon Brown

Tom said...

"we are all British"

No we aren't, particularly in London. You coming over all Churchill won't save Boris from the consequence of his own inexperience.

angelneptunestar said...

Adam you are funny. If Gordon said that, I totally agree for once.

Tom, oh yes we are all British. Because I believe that everyone who lives here permanently, wherever they have come from, is British. Britain may now be a melting pot, but we are all British. And we will survive, far better, if we all stick together and try to support Boris, It is no point supporting Gordon, he has had a long time to make his mark, failed miserably and he is a busted flush.

ps. I'm just watching Mayor's Question Time and Boris sounds damn good to me. Totally on top of the situation.

The Troll said...

Survive?! What do you think Boris is going to do during his four years. I mean I know we're not expecting much from his term, but I hadn't expected him to precipitate the end of civilisation from his Thameside office.

angelneptunestar said...

Adam, I am referring to the economy and it will be tough surviving the credit crunch, now that Labour have trashed the economy with their utter incompetence. The elderly will have the choice of eating or heating.... NICE.

I am sorry you don't expect much from Boris because I expect great things. Maybe you should set your sights a little higher?

There must be something that Boris has done that you approve of so far..... come on, spit it out!

The Troll said...

'come on, spit it out!'

No.

angelneptunestar said...

Go on, be nice. There must be one thing. I say nice things about Ken.
(sometimes).

angelneptunestar said...

One thing I am totally in agreement with all of you guys though..... Brian Coleman is an absolute DOOFUS!

Tom said...

"now that Labour have trashed the economy with their utter incompetence."

Er, Labour are responsible for the US housing crisis? I do believe that was at least partly contributed to by the policies of George Bush, who was supported by, er, Boris Johnson. As for the UK, the economy is the one the Tories left us with, Labour's problem is being happy with that rather than trying to change it too much, and I hope they rot for it.

Mind you, if you think a Conservative administration would have provided better leadership in the areas of banking regulation and rolling back the frontiers of the greedy end of capitalism you really are living on Neptune.

stuart graham said...

Angela - are the oil moguls and energy corporation executives who have hiked up fuel and energy prices, but register as being on offshore island tax havens to avoid paying tax 'British' in your book? Are they all in this together with us?
Gordon Brown is as responsible for anyone for the economic mess by being so tied to the US economy - but the greatest fan of the American way is Bojo who is hell bent on seeing that we have as much of the failings of the market here in London.
If we're supposed to say something nice about Boris, perhaps you should guide us - his intelligent appointments, perhaps? His decision making? His committment to anti-racism? His appointments to women in high positions? What have I missed?

angelneptunestar said...

David Cameron would have provided better leadership int he areas of banking regulation and rolling back the frontiers of the greedy. You are right to make that point and you are right to point it out, because it is dreadful. that is one of my hobby horses. How big companies steal from the poor, and don't even bother to lie about it because they think they can get away with it. I am suing AOL right now.

I know that our banks lending money to the US for mortgages triggered the credit crunch and that is not Gordon's fault. It is his fault he sold off our gold reserves too cheaply, dithered over Northern Rock, allow Scotland to have loads of benefits we don't have, not your fault Scottish people. He has thrown money at things wthout rebuilding, and he has not saved for a rainy day, so now we are left with no resources to fall back on. And he dithers over EVERYTHING.

angelneptunestar said...

Tom, some of the old school Tories i don't like either and they were heartless. DC isn't like that. (nor is Boris). Nor is George O. Nor William Hague.

angelneptunestar said...

Stuart you are totally out of order accusing Boris of racism, his attitude to women, he makes bold appointments and some of them are bound not to work out. At least he isn't employing his partner at a huge salary, like Ken, and his other "wimmin" that he had on the payroll.

To accuse Boris of racism is ludicrous and a lie. His grandfather was Turkish and could recite the Koran by heart, his wife is half indian and he has German, French and Dutch blood. You are bang out of order, and you should check the facts before making wild accusations.

The oil moguls are British if they are British residents. I totally don't agree with how they are acting, it is abominable.

Boris did support George W. Bush at the beginning, but he changed his mind long ago, and declared the price of the war was way way too high and a huge mistake.

You are very ill informed, and ought to update your reading.

The Troll said...

That makes a grand total of seven comments, none of which have anything to do with the congestion charge extension. To the sin bin with you!

angelneptunestar said...

Um, isn't he having a vote.. or something? It might be for the Western Extension whatever that might be, I can't remember.

Also, Stuart thingy, Boris has just employed that Isabel lady and said she was brilliant at the last LMQT. He employs people according to suitability for the job, not their sex, and to employ token women just to have some at City Hall is patronising tripe.

The Troll said...

You don't even read this blog do you?

angelneptunestar said...

Mostly and you know I think you have good ideas. Not absolutely always, and the congestion charge is a bit boring and not a subject I can really get worked up about.

Tom's point about big companies ripping off the poor is something I get very angry about because it is stealing. The worst thing is when they blatantly admit they were lying to make money out of vulnerable people. I am not vulnerable. They don't even bother to lie because they are so cynical about the stealing. That is why I am suing AOL even though it is only for a few hundred, because they need to know that some people will say no to them. (You can do it in the small claims court and everybody they rip off should do it).

Alex said...

You are Angie Bray, aren't you?

angelneptunestar said...

Alex, I am not Angie Bray, not have I ever heard of Angie Bray. So who is Angie Bray?

angelneptunestar said...

I have found out who Angie Bray is. Wow. So you think I am Angie Bray. WOW.

Roger Evans said...

I had an office next door to Angie for eight years, so I can certainly say that she is not the delectable Angelneptunestar...

The Troll said...

Delectable?!

Angela you have a fan.

Anonymous said...

I have long suspected Angelneptunestar was something to do with the Administration over at Boris's gaff. That seems to confirm it!

angelneptunestar said...

Adam, it is good I have one fan, anyway!

Anon. I am not part of Boris's team, nor do I work at City Hall. The only time i have ever seen Boris is when I attended a few of his speeches during the election. I do blog a lot on his website, as well as here and on Dave Hill's site, because it is amusing. And it has got more and more amusing as I have gone on.

angelneptunestar said...

I'm not on the payroll is what I'm saying. Have we met, Rog?

The Troll said...

Just to clear up any confusion, Angelneptunestar does not 'blog' on here or at Dave Hill's (as far as I know). What she does is comment. Incessantly.

Helen said...

You should start charging Dating Agency fees, Troll.

angelneptunestar said...

A blog (a contraction of the term "Web log") is a Web site, usually maintained by an individual [1], with regular entries of commentary, descriptions of events, or other material such as graphics or video. Entries are commonly displayed in reverse-chronological order. "Blog" can also be used as a verb, meaning to maintain or add content to a blog.

I am speechless with indignation, that you have the cheek to talk to me like that, you, you, you, expletive deleted.

Blog means to comment as well as other things, and I bet I could think of topics for blogs. just as well as you guys. Maybe not so serious or full of statistics, but if you read what I put on Boris's site, a lot of people remember it and laugh. Including him, I bet. OK I don't have the political background knowledge you all have, and I never actually hardly ever understand what Tom is talking about, but I make up for that with true passion and conviction.


Finally, Dave said I was a valued member of his website. how come you never call me that?

angelneptunestar said...

OK a low point was when I said that if they were not telling the truth, those bishops would burn in hell,but I was so so sorry for poor Ray Lewis.

The Troll said...

Helen - The fact that I may have brought together two kindred souls is more than enough reward.

angelneptunestar said...

Helen you are just getting back at me for the time I made that joke before aren't you?

You may not remember, but when there was all the fuss about poor old Ray Lewis, I said "If there was just an ordinary legover situation" hoping it would shock someone.

You fell right into it and were going "oh oh to speak like that of a man of the cloth!" I was tittering away to myself, but I did not do it to be mean, just to joke. But I do not think I have met Roger Evans, so how does he know what I look like? ps. there is one occasion I could have met him.

Roger Evans said...

Calm down everyone! I don't know if I have met Angel and I haven't a clue what she looks like - but I think I can tell a lot about someone from what they write...

angelneptunestar said...

They wouldn't be calm if they met me. On Valentines Day, they have to increase the deliveries to my house.... ps. I am joking, but I do get lots of Valentines.

Tom said...

"On Valentines Day, they have to increase the deliveries..."

...of metal polish?

The Troll said...

Shall I just leave you two to it?